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Streaming, Politics, & Philosophy | @destiny | EP 433



Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down in-person with Steven Bonnell II, also known as Destiny. They discuss the differences between the left and the right, force versus invitation, the feasibility and pitfalls of command economies, the dangers of ideology, and government response to worldwide crises.

Destiny, also known as Steven Bonnell II, is a prominent political commentator and content creator known for his debate skills and provocative takes on various issues. With a passion for gaming, politics, and philosophy, Destiny engages in lively discussions that often challenge the status quo.

This episode was recorded on February 3rd, 2024

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(0:00) Tour info 2024
(0:40) Coming up
(1:18) Intro
(2:22) Early days of streaming, how Steven entered political commentary
(7:40) Changes in thinking: shifting to the left
(12:11) The key differences between left and right worldviews
(13:29) Intervention, distribution, gigantism, and populism
(23:42) Redistribution and command economies, can they work?
(29:32) Negative externalities, balancing free markets with incentivized behavior and their effects on the poor
(37:34) Climate and economic models: two Towers of Babel
(40:57) The timeframe of C02 models changes the outlook, so how far back should we consider?
(43:12) The green guise of compassion obscures underlying intent
(47:34) The psychology of those who utter, “There are too many people on the planet”
(49:46) Destiny’s Jenga Tower, an analogy for how people become stuck in their beliefs
(57:00) Why people fear nuclear energy
(58:30) Realities of the green energy pipe dream
(1:00:32) Is it malevolence or ignorance that drives bad ideas? Motives versus public perception
(1:03:19) Both parties wield power when they have it, so how do we mitigate it?
(1:07:37) Was WWII Germany right or left wing?
(1:09:19) Moses and the desert
(1:13:56) Living in separate realities and bridging the divide
(1:15:50) MRNA, validity of rollout and excess deaths
(1:24:34) It wasn’t just the left
(1:26:27) Weighing the fear of a crisis against the use of experimental technology
(1:30:00) Mass consensus
(1:37:38) Psychopathy and levels of malevolence
(1:43:10) Do marriage and society exist without force?
(1:47:50) Tit-for-tat, force or justice?
(1:59:11) Why Steven debates

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32 comments
@dnate697

15 years ago I used to argue with Peterson when he was a Nobody! He is still a Nut LOL!

@raenoldparkin

A gamer should never be allowed to have a political voice. Put your toys in your toy box if you want to converse with the adults.

@magnusoptimus2052

Thank you Dr. Peterson for totally unmasking this idiotic Marxist. This Godless mental CHILD is so full of himself he will never know true understanding because he thinks he IS it. Narcissus' identity has been completely consumed by him. He can never gain any truth because he hears none but his own. Listening to this moron only made me want to go "Old School" and …."beat some sense into" this young man. I reserve the right to pray for God Almighty to either provide wisdom to this young man or remove any destruction his mouth may spew. Please God save this young man or prevent his destruction completely. I keep thinking a portion of Miranda a police officer says to a perpetrator: "You have the right to be silent"…. This clueless young man needs to apply that.

@masonmoore1893

Amazing and respectful conversation from these gentlemen. Hope Jordan does more debate podcast episode

@kingofthe000

Jordan Peterson your a tool 🙂

@f.r8580

This is a pretty good discussion

@blangtube

Why are they sending money over? So they can launder it.

@Whatsupbruther

GOD I wish I could take part in a conversation like this, I feel like I had so many good points in the middle of their contention that could have stopped their conversation breakdowns, and could have facilitated them further into discussion. So many real world situations I thought of, especially around the crime= poor people topic, so many people ruining their lives because they thought stealing a shopping cart worth of clothes, or a baby stroller worth of gas station snacks is worth ruining the rest of their lives over, with either resisting police and having tour child being taken away, or going on a wild car chase and killing a elderly couple in the process. Status crimes is one of the most tragic pandemics plaguing our modern society, and yet can seem so first world problem. Our world is a strange one.